"Greetings my relatives blah blah blah.... Blah blah Leonard Peltier blah blah blah still in a cage.... Blah blah blah little Eichmanns blah blah.... Blah blah blah [litany of US-perpetrated holocausts ranging from the Dutch playing kickball with the heads of slaughtered Indians from whom they had earlier purchased the island of Manhattan to the Dresden fire-bombings and, of course, Hiroshima and Nagasaki] blah blah blah US out of North America!"
The above version has the added attraction of being brief. Purists may argue, however, that omitting the length and density of a Churchill speech is to lose the soporific effect of the original. I offer, then, the outline of Churchill's speech:
Well said. :)
— Chris () (URL) - 18 April '05 - 15:18
Hello,
Did Ward Churchill actaully talk about Hiroshima? Many of my stupid white brothers and sisters use Hiroshima as an excuse to rail against US "Imperialism" and an example of military "genocide". Let me tell you about my wifes' grandfather who is Japanese.
My wife is from Okinawa, we met in LA. Her grandfather is a WWII Japan Army vet and still lives in Okinawa, he's 93.
He wasn't fit enough for duty in the regular army so he helped design "Kamikaze" planes for the Japanese. I've asked him about this many times and he never changes his story so it must be true. He was in Hiroshima attending a meeting of some sort the day it was bombed, luckily his hotel was outside the city limits. The next day he walked through the carnage, all he can say is that "it was hell on earth". But he also says that it HAD to be done. The US had to bomb Japan because they were never going to give up. He hates the Japanese. Okinawa is a prefecture of Japan and they are Japanese citizens but many Okinawans consider themselves "Okinawan" not Japanese. I tell this story to many people and I sure many don't believe me.
So there you are, an actual Japanese WWII vet who agrees with what we did to stop the war.
Robert J
Waldorf MD
— Robert Jones () - 18 April '05 - 15:23
Just one thing about your piece...which is otherwise brilliant. Peltier was indeed convicted of Murdering Federal Agents. Unfortunately for the Government they couldn't lift any prints from the weapon in question and they couldn't match the killing bullets to the rifle barrel they found. Aside from that they have no physical evidence linking Peltier to the crime in question other than his association with the AIM folks(That's American Indian Movement).
Go check out Peter Mathiesen's "In the Spirit of Crazy Horse" or the Frontline video of the same title I think. Peltier is serving time for another man's crime. A man Peltier claims to know but will not divulge which I find slightly convenient. On the other hand, when you consider what was going on at Rosebud during those days...
and to think...all that over a pair of boots...
— Wayne Fielder () (URL) - 18 April '05 - 21:49
Mr Jones,
You mentioned "He also includes a reference to the Nazi’s alleged respect for US imperialism as a pretext for Germany’s own imperialism" I know you were paraphrasing, but does Chruchill actually believe that?!?!
I'm not the greatest student of history, but I think I remember hearing how the US was quite isolationist after WWI, and that FDR was trying to circumvent Congress (and public opinion) with the Lend-Lease deal, but it sure fell short of the amount of support the Allies needed. (How mant countries fell to the Nazis between 1938 and 1944? 5? 6?) If it wasn't for Pearl Harbor we probably wouldn't have gotten "officially" involved until the U-Boats were floating up the East River.
Talk about revisionist history!
— johnd01 () - 19 April '05 - 14:52
I've only heard one of Churchill's speeches (and that was on-line while eating lunch and trying to stay awake) but in that one he used the firebombing of Tokyo instead of Hiroshima.
He twists things around a lot - the incident with the Dutch for example. Yes, the Dutch attacked some indians and brought one or more heads back. The child of one of the settlers grabbed a head and kicked it like a ball. This appalled the adults. Churchill has the adults playing soccer with the heads. Everything he says is like that - a little truth mixed with enough fiction to give it the spin Churchill wants. Every nation has done some unsavory things. By focusing on 350 years of US history (starting 150 years before we were even a separate country), Churchill gives a false impression that the US is unique in these actions.
— Mark G () (URL) - 19 April '05 - 23:01
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