CNews 13Mar05

"A university is a place where you're supposed to think deeply about things, where you're supposed to challenge established thought, and it's becoming increasingly difficult to do —that in today's political climate."



Oy Gevalt! Yeah...calling 9-11 victims "Little Eichmans is the absolute peak of "deep thinking". NOT. Thank goodness Elizabeth Hoffman is not the president of CU anymore.

  — Bucky Katt () - 13 March '05 - 08:06

I notice that the Newsweek article frames the Churchill debate solely along the lines of free speech.



There is no mention what so ever of lies, plagerism, assault, fraud, and grade intimidation on the part of Churchill.

  — Terry - 13 March '05 - 08:10

Terry: As I said in "Recasting the Argument" ( http://www.pirateballerina.com/files/recasting_the_argument.htm ), this is what academia and the MSM will try to do. It's all about "freedom of speech" and "academic freedom." While everyone's initial outrage was about Churchill's "little Eichmanns" essay, the scrutiny of Churchill that outrage incurred quickly revealed Churchill's far more worisome faults, e.g., his academic fraud, his plagiarism, his race fraud, his commitment to violent overthrow of the government... the list continues to grow....

  — jwpaine () - 13 March '05 - 08:16

I am tired of the characterization of colleges and universities as "marketplaces of ideas," as though that justifies professors blurting out any old thing that pops into their heads. Institutes of learning should at least be marketplaces of non-stupid ideas, surely. I don't see any biology chairs taking on board creationist or Lamarckian professors to provide a little variety in the wares.

  — S. Weasel () - 13 March '05 - 08:38

Thanks for all your work in telling the ‘rest of the story’ that the MSM seems determined to ignore/bury. I keep waiting for the MSM to catch on to the fact that people want access to all the facts, not just one sided spin of the story. Failing to do so, the MSM hastens its own demise.

  — Terry - 13 March '05 - 09:03

JW-



You might want to take a look at this...it came out from the Claremont Institute 5 March and was posted on the blog dedicated to all things Ward Churchill:



No License to Lie- http://claremontcolorado.org/



Some good analysis there.

  — Bucky Katt () - 13 March '05 - 11:18

Thanks for the tip. I already have that link in the CNews for 11Mar05 ( http://www.pirateballerina.com/blog/entry.php?id=35 ).

  — jwpaine () - 13 March '05 - 12:23

To those who suggest the elimination of public funding of education: Thomas Jefferson would disagree with you. Why? Because he knew (as Wilson would later say) that, "The informed citizen is the cornerstone of democracy." And to those who object that the US "isn't a democracy, it's a republic": read the Constitution for the first time in your lives.



As for the allegations about Ward Churchill: that's all they are: allegations. I.e., they are unproven. Of course, Reich Whine smear-jerks aren't about proof or fact; they are about smear, plain and simple. So the allegation of, as example, "plagerism" [sic] is countered with the fact of defamation. Of course, Reich Whiners, beimng anti-elitist elitist, are above the rule of law; the rule of law is for their perceived inferiors.

  — Joseph J. Nagarya () - 14 March '05 - 02:05

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