CNews 4June05

Ethnic studies is a field long dominated by pseudo-academics and moonbat quasi-religious dogma. Of course its adherents react like scalded cats when their poster child is revealed as a fraud.

  — SPQR () - 04 June '05 - 18:41

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June 4th, 2005 at 7:08 pm

When Ward Churchill’s essay came to my attention, I thought it curious that several Churchill supporters insisted that the entire affair was a witch hunt, perpetrated by right wingers and supported by people who never read the essay. I read the essay and much more. I am not a right winger and I loathe many right wing views and the messengers of those views. Yes, I was offended by his essay, but frankly, I’d heard it before and we’ll hear it again, as free speech allows the expression of any opinion without prohibitions concerning the quality or truth of the speech. What caught my eye was the unscholarly writing. My concern was only that this person was somehow tenured at my daughter’s school and couldn’t write well, make an original argument or properly support his point of view by arguing legitimate opposing views and substantiating his “facts”. Rush Limbaugh advocates in the same fashion, which I find annoying and worthless. This, and not the words of some womanizing blowhard on the television, kicked off my study of the Churchill issue. I’m not the only Churchill critic on the liberal side of the fence and I suggest that the polarization of American politics should not be injected here. Churchill is found wanting by many.



The Rocky Mountain News has made the judgment that the Churchill story is a matter of importance to many of its readers. Clearly, you had no interest in reading further than the blurbs announcing the investigation by RMN. That seems pretty closed minded. I assume that we all have the right (and responsibility) to check all available information before we try to form appropriate opinions.



You have thoroughly confused the RMN four part investigative report and the editorial citing new revelations and why they must be included by the Standing Committee on Research Misconduct. You wrote,



“That’s it. Those are the four “new revelations” that the Rocky Mountain News says the committee must account for. Those are the new revelations that the News is going to take five days to account for.”



The “new revelations” are additional charges of plagiarism as reported on Friday. Please see

http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3826262,00.html

and http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3827452,00.html



Your knowledge of Churchill is so pedestrian that you don’t even recognized Churchill’s own words.

“And note that they put the word “prepared” in quotation marks. Wonder why….”

In his statements answering these charges and elsewhere, Churchill used the word “prepared” to characterize what others are calling plagiarism of work done by the Harvard-educated Canadian professor, Cohen. That’s why RMN put the word in quotes.



I suggest you take the time to read the entire report before passing judgment on RMN’s work. You will find that the questions are answered by experts in the body of the article. The “yes” or “no” answers are ours to make, depending on whether we find the experts convincing. I do.

  — Laurie () - 04 June '05 - 20:41

The Sten Gazette wrote, per your quotation:



...the Rocky Mountain News, along with it’s [sic] Republican ownership...



Need any more convincing? Dont’ [sic] forget we have two competing newspapers in Denver. How much attention did the Denver Post pay to these new revelations? The Saturday paper is a combined issue, and includes a single editorial page under the RMN masthead. On that page there was not a single word about the Churchill affair.



You responded:



The Sten Gazette has not, apparently, been made aware that the Rocky Mountain News (spit!) and the Denver Post (viva!) are both published by the same company.



I respond: What is your point? I think the words "Saturday...combined issue" convey that the Sten Gazette is probably aware of this distinction. Moreover, the Denver Newspaper Agency is a merged setup in which the Financial and HR are managed under one umbrella, and the two papers each own 50% of the Agency while running separate editorial boards and still printing their own issues. The primary overlap, partially noted by the Sten Gazette, are the combined weekend issues -- the Saturday paper is a "News and Post" issue in the News' tabloid format, and the Sunday paper is a "Post and News" issue in the Post's broadsheet layout.



That said, the Sten Gazette is pissing into the wind on this one, and will only make a mess of themselves for the trouble. But it's good to keep one's own facts even when saying so, yes?

  — anony-mouse () - 06 June '05 - 14:18

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